Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Couscous in Paris

Hi, Can anyone recommend a place to eat a good couscous in Paris? Thanks




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You can try Chez Omar on rue de Bretagne in the 3rd. It is probably one of the better known couscouseries in the city. It has a rather nice, casual atmosphere, and the food is quite tasty. (Also cheap!)




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Does anyone know a good place for couscous in the 5th? I would like to eat at one too and that is where I am staying. I know this is Gichelle%26#39;s post, but maybe it would help him too as there is no mention of where he is staying.




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Chez Omar, is also my first choice but in the 5ème you can go Chez Jaafar at 22, Rue Sommerand. A tiny little place but Monsieur Jaafar have a good selection for a really cheap price. Bon appétit.




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Thanks Truffaut, I am staying at the 12th, but I will check those places. Can you tell me the name of the closest Metro Station?




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I love Timgad, Rue Brunel (metro Argentine).





They have a website.





LEs




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Closest Metro to Chez Omar is probably Etienne Marcel, Reamur-Sebastopol, or Arts %26amp; Metiers. Sorry for not being clearer, but we usually walk from somewhere nearby.




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Les68





The information on the website does not contain price information. What are prices like?




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- La boule rouge, a sefardi take on couscous. 1 rue de la Boule Rouge, 9e.



- Wally le Saharien. More upscale than the others (€ 50 upwards), but worth it. 36 rue Rodier 9e.



- L%26#39;Homme bleu. Excellent value for money, you can also try its excellent tajines. 55bis rue Jean-Pierre Timbaud, 11e.




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Le Souk near Bastille is really good although I can%26#39;t remember the full address. Stay away from Le 404 in the 3rd, beautiful interior, very funky and trendy but food not great.




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The restaurant of Les Degres de Notre Dame (a nice 10 room hotel in the 5th close to the Seine opposite Notre Dame and few blocks from St Michel) has nice Moroccan dishes with couscous





lesdegreshotel.monsite.wanadoo.fr/page5.html

sharing/splitting hotel cost

Thanks for the advice.


I may be going solo to Paris but if there is anyone interested in going and splitting the hotel cost with me, I do not mind.





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Take a look at Maison des Clubs UNESCO. 43, rue de la Glaciere - 75013 Paris. 33.01.43.36.00.63



If it%26#39;s back in operation (was down for renovations in Feb 05), it%26#39;s a great deal for what it does for people in your situation.



Ask for a room %26quot;à partagé%26quot; (shared) for two or four. Just bring ear plugs in case somebody else snores. It%26#39;s a pretty good location and it%26#39;s dirt cheap, clean %26amp; well-lit. Common baths. It%26#39;s also the most spacious rooms I%26#39;ve seen anywhere in Paris for under US$1000 [thousand--no typo] per night.

Guided Tour of Versailles?

My husband and I are wanting to take a day trip to Versailles from Paris in April. Can anyone recommend a good group tour guide? Is there one that will just do the tour at Versailles, without including transportation to Versailles? It seems that from other people%26#39;s postings, it%26#39;s relatively easy to get there via RER from Paris. Also, we can visit anyday between Sunday through Thursday. It sounds like we should avoid Sundays since it gets so crowded. Thanks!




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The visitors%26#39; information desk at the chateau provides audio, self-guided tours that work very nicely. The charge for the audio tour is very reasonable and comes in many different languages. Self-guided is very nice, packed with much more information, and suits individual paces very well. You have fewer opportunities to ask questions though. Go during a non-summer school day and the only crowds might be school children (they won%26#39;t block your views quite as badly if you stand in the back).

le cabaret

is this place still popular and upscale?




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I honetly do not know, but wanted to bump up your post to get it out of the forest of ads that were recently posted so that someone may actually see it.




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It%26#39;s been revamped a few months ago, and is now even more popular. %26quot;Upscale%26quot;, I don%26#39;t know, %26quot;hip%26quot;, definitely. Read: it%26#39;s not the Porsche and tie gang anymore it%26#39;s young hip things.




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what are other places that this kind of crowd goes to?




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Bob, you always seem to be very disdainful of anything %26quot;hip and trendy%26quot; and yet always seem to be on the up and up about what is %26quot;hip and trendy%26quot; and even go on to define the nuances (ie: porsche and tie crowd? I always thought they were the ones who paid the bills for the young and beautiful) anyway, how do you do this? Do you frequent these places in disguise or do you live vicariously through someone who is tragically hip and beautiful? Everytime I%26#39;ve been to Cabaret it is usually the same crowd, what we like to lump here in America in one category, euro-trash + models. One of my best friends is one, but that%26#39;s just one of his minor flaws.





P.S I have to agree with you on your post about St.Tropez, I guess I just coined a new term russian-trash.




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petiza, %26quot;hip and trendy%26quot; is good for clubs and some bars, bad for restaurants (at least for what you get in your plate and what you pay for). And, yes, I happen to go to these places.





fan987, what kind of crowd are you meaning. The real hip one, or the Euro/Russian trash one?




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i went last saturday after a long time not being there, hip? oh non, never saw some many ploucs (i found for translation country bumpkin), its too big, people are ugly, before it used to be full of models and beautiful guys and girls, there were only ugly girls, and maybe 5 good looking guys. dont go there, its probably popular at the sens there are some people there, but not hip ones for sure, and also its too big so half of the club is empty. for me its a no no no.




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Alex! I had not heard the word %26quot;plouc%26quot; in years. There is no translation, this word come only come from a country where there are some real class dinstintions. For an American (a New Yorker at least) to understand your description of the crowd it would be %26quot;bridge and tunnel%26quot;. Some people might like it. Hey, not everyone is young an beautiful.





fan 987, what is this crowd called in L.A?




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no for me it has nothing to do with different classes, but with behaviour. people who dont have fun, who dont smile, who come and speak like they never learnt french to you, who dont behave like nice and fun people for me these are ploucs. and thats what i saw there, lots of people sitting with an angry face, badly dressed (yes when i go out i like to see people nicely dressed, it doesnt mean chic but either chic or funky or with style i dont know), and guys coming and saying stupid things to us, without any education (that is very plouc, i saw more idiots there than in other places), and well all this makes that i dont like this place anymore. but well some might like, its very big now, but thats not my thing.




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Le cab is still one of the best clubs in Paris.Best party are %26quot;Kiss My House%26quot;,%26quot;Playboy%26quot;(whith the bunnies ;)and %26quot;Electrochic%26quot;.




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Alex, by your definition then a plouc can%26#39;t be rich, young and beautiful? I frankly have never seen as much %26quot;plouc%26quot; offensive behaviour as I have in St. Tropez. The worst offenses comitted by the aformentioned class. Let%26#39;s throw some champagne all over the models! Yeah, how classy and upscale!

KDKSAIL, others- help? (transport to/from Asnieres?)

Found a very inexpensive hotel in Asnieres that was rated fairly well, but I know the travel factor is going to be a bit bothersome. I searched and found this from late 2004, from KDKSAIL, and was just wondering three things- 1) if it%26#39;s all still the case, or are there any updates? 2) Also, whether or not anyone had an idea of what the roundtrip SNCF ticket from Asnieres to Gare St. Lazare that wouldn%26#39;t be part of the Carte Orange would cost, since we%26#39;ll probably be doing it quite a few times? I%26#39;ll check out the transport website for the bus, too, since that may be the best deal of all- 3) that (the bus) would be covered under the Carte Orange, true?



Thanks in advance!



From KDKSAIL, Oct. 2004: %26quot;Asnieres is a suburb, just to the northeast of Paris and located within Zone 2. . . The only Metro stop in the vicinity (3-4 blocks from the hotel) is GABRIEL PERI/ASNIERES at the end of the #13-B %26#39;spur%26#39; of the main #13 ligne. Coming into Paris, this probably won%26#39;t present any difficulties. The actual Metro travel time will probably only be 15-20 minutes to the center of the city. But returning to your hotel may present a complication. Because Gabriel Peri/Asnieres is on a %26#39;spur%26#39; of the #13 Metro ligne, you may hve to change trains to the LA FOURCHE station--or else you%26#39;re on your way out of the city headed for the Stade de France and Saint Denis.



There is also a SNCF banilieue train connection from the nearby Asnieres-sur-Seine station into the Gare Saint Lazare which runs frequently during the day and only takes 6-8 minutes to Gare St. Lazare. This is NOT covered by any of the transportation passes.



There are also a few public bus lignes which also pass through the neighborhood near either the Metro or SNCF stations, that will take you into central Paris on one ticket from Zone 2.%26quot;




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Unless you are very adventurous, you REALLY don%26#39;t want to stay in a hotel in Asnieres! It is in the suburbs, but it is not a nice suburb. There is only one metro line that goes there, and it is frequently insufferably crowded at least as far south as La Fourche.




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2) I%26#39;d have to look this up on the SNCF website



3) Yes. The bus is covered under the Carte Orange.




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To the best of my knowledge, the transportation information previously provided is still valid.





But as also been noted above is that there may well be better and more convenient locations for budget hotels in Paris for you to choose from....relative convenience to the sights and attractions of Paris that you%26#39;ve probably come to visit.




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Asnieres is not far and for the most part fine but is on the most crowded metro line (13). It has a very %26quot;international%26quot; (more than %26quot;French%26quot;) atmosphere which I think is good to experiment on occasions, for example when you go to the sweet cats and dogs cemetery, but other than that, for a long stay, I would suggest you look into a more central location.




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There are 2 parts of Asnieres: a nicer part and a not quite so nice part. The metro serves the not quite so nice part more or less.





When I have visited, I have always used SNCF. I don%26#39;t remember the cost. SNCF takes %26lt;10 minutes.





But, seriously, I wouldn%26#39;t stay there unless it was free.




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The SNCF/TER train fare between PARIS-Gare Saint Lazare and GARE D%26#39;ASNIERES (Asnières-sur-Seine) is 2,05 €...but I think that you can purchase CARNETS of 10 reduced-price tickets for 16,40 € which may be used on this regional TER route.

Must do's on weekend birthday trip (this coming weekend)

We are going to Paris this weekend to celebrate 47th birthdays of my husband and his twin brother, ( 2 couples).My brother in law and his wife have never visited before and my husband and I have not visited together. We are staying at Hotel Vernet folllowing posts on Tripadvisor. I would be grateful for suggestions particularly restaurant recomendations. i would like something special for their birthday which is Mon and was considering dinner at Eiffel Tower and Moulin Rouge but not sure. General dinner budget of up to 50 - 80 euro each with increased budget for birthday.



I%26#39;d be grateful for your help. Also best area for individual shops as opposed to big department stores and chain stores.



Thank you very much




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Hotel Vernet has a great restaurant called les Elysees du Vernet. Glass dome was built by Gustave Eiffel. There is music on some nights (ask).



You will not be able to get a table at Jules Verne at Eiffel Tower on such a short notice UNLESS they have cancelations. Call same day.



There is a good Brasserie with excellent seafood at the North/up (?) corner of rue Vernet.



The drugstore at the top of Champs Elysees is getting good reviews lately but I have not been.



Instead of Moulin Rouge, I would recommend the Crazy Horse which is closer to your hotel, has better shows and fewer busloads of tourists. The Lido is also closer to your hotel but more touristy than Crazy Horse.



For individual shops go to Marais (start at rue des Francs Bourgeois and move around) or to left bank starting at rue du Four, rue Bonaparte, rue de Seine and that general area. Even the Bon Marche has a boutiquy atmosphere with all the designers having a special area/booth.

How has the Euro affected the French

A previous post was doing fine until one person made it his personal discussion of the college system of France... Now that posting has and all others in the OP have been removed...





How do you see the affect that the introduction of the Euro has for both the tourist and the French citizen...? It appears that food, drink and hotel rooms have become very expenive for all...




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The Euro has caused a price increase in a lot of areas as everything was adjusted to the nearest higher number. That plus the cost of living index.



Some prices have also stayed the same. Like cost of some breads.



I find cost of life in Boston to be higher than Paris however.




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Traveler,



The post is still there. But to summarize, previous posts made it clear that Europeans across the board feel a price hike, while real inflation indexes show that the increase has been negligible.



TA members posted explaining the difference as a direct result of increased restaurant and housing prices. Housing alone has double since the intro of the Euro.



For the tourist, restaurant prices went up about on an avg. of 20% in my neighborhood (I did bother to keep track), which means a 20% increase in what is often a large part of the travel budget. The prices of museums and activities has reamained about the same, but then the dollar fell making it seem much higher to American and CDN visitors.



When traveleing I have the impression that hotel rates also went up about 20%, but I have no hard info on this one.




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Phread,



hotel prices have gone up. the first year of the Euros it was more like 5% but within the last 5 years 20-25% is very realistic.



This is also due to an increase of north american frequentation in Paris after 2002/2003. 2005 %26amp; 2006 have and will be really good business years and so prices got a little raise by the end of last year again!



Where you could get a double room for 500FF you now pay 95 Euros!




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Now that I%26#39;m talking about FF... I made a little calcul and one can easily figure out why especially for Americans prices seem so high...



500FF = 75 €



95€ = 115$



500FF = 100$



But the price increase ins%26#39;t 15$ wich is about 15%, the 75€ in 2000 were more like 60$ (conversion 1€=0.8$) so the difference for the US citizens in the last 5 years is more like 45%!



Maybe there is an error somewhere, I am no math crack...




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Several good replies and helpful to me in understanding the price increases in France since the Euro... Thanks again




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As far as your math and the way exchange rate has changed the dollars buying power... it all makes sense to me... But in simple terms there has been an increase in the cost to all in Paris for Hotels, Food and Drink... An increase of about 25% since the Euro... without any regard to exchange rates..




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Well 25% seem a bit too much... It is a capitalistic country (somehow) and things like hotels (for which there is a big demand) prices do vary non correlational to the rest, especially since Paris is the n°1 visited city in the world.



I guess 10-15% are realistic (this is an opinion, more than a fact). A plat du jour used to be between 45-60FF in a brasserie and now it is between 9 and 13€.



On the other hand products that people really want (high end restaurants for example) may have become 25% more expensive but that is also because people are willed to spend more ;)




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That may be true.... I have traveled around the world and accross the USA and find no logical reason for some prices... You can pay $10.00 for a famous sandwitch in NYC or you can buy one as good on the street for $5.00... One of the things that I have noticed in Paris is the 8 to 12 dollar add on for breakfast at the hotels... That would not be too bad for a full meat and potato type breakfast with all of the fixens even buffet style all you can eat... but for bread, jelly and coffee? That would be 5 star NYC prices...





It has been 5 years since I was in Paris and it just hit me how much more expensive it is now... This will be my 5th trip and we are looking forwarded to our favorite city in the world...




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I%26#39;m not sure most comparisons to pre- and post-€uro domestic economies are entirely valid. To begin with, in order for the EU to establish the EMU and the new €uro common currency, it had to turn a bit of a %26#39;blind eye%26#39; to both Germany and France %26#39;..cooking the books..%26#39; of their faltering national economies to meet the minimum domestic economic criteria for membership in the EMU-European Monetary Union. Without Germany or France (the two largest economic %26#39;engines%26#39;) fully participating members in the EMU, the new €uro would most likely arrived stillborn...and a bit of an international joke. Immediately after adoption of the €uro, national central banks and governments applied a fair amount of pressure on domestic economies to hold costs and prices down. So to a certain extent, subsequent price increases may well be a function of latent weaknesses in the original system. Beyond this, inflation took it%26#39;s natural toll.




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Some nice graphs comparing the %26quot;perceived%26quot; inflation versus %26quot;measured%26quot; inflation for both France and the total euro zone are on the page http://inflation.free.fr/index.php (bottom of page)





Remember that the value of the euro versus the (‘old’) EU currencies was fixed in 1999.

opinion needed

Finally booked a hotel room at Grand Hotel Leveque for 4 days in early June for my 2 teen



boys and I. Seems like it took me forever to make a lodging decision. Based on lot of reading I hope it will be great time for all three of us. The question I have is about Paris and Versailles tours . Is it worthwhile to book tours from the USA ahead of time and how would I do it - or is it easier to do when we get there? Or do I even need tours? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.




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Read my strand . . . or do a search.





tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g187147-i14-k41427…





My husband and I are going on our own based on other people%26#39;s feedback. Cheers. =)

Seine Evening Dinner Cruises - Paris

From experience can anyone give me any advice or information on which is the best price/operator for an evening dinner cruise. I am going to Paris with my husband for my birthday in 3 weeks time.





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Hi,





A search of the forum should provide all of the information you require.





However we have used Bateaux Parisiene for more than 10 years and find their service and meals very good.





bateauxparisiens.com/english/fr_dejeuner.html





Where you can e-mail direct and reserve.





Best wishes




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PatVale



The most famous are Bateaux Mouches which depart from Pont de l%26#39;Alma. But Bateaux Parisiens (departing from Quai Branly next to the Eiffel Tower) is definiely my preferred option. I have used them fo years with foreign friends as well as for entertaining business guests. Professional service, good food and modern boats.

Renting Bikes at Versaille

Hi, was just wondering if anyone knows..is it possible to rent bikes to go around the gardens at versaille?...and can anyone explain what a carte orange is?




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Yes, you can rent a bike down in the gardens near the canal. They aren%26#39;t very expensive, but I know you can only rent in the warmer months.





The carte orange is a metro/bus/RER pass that you can buy if you will be in Paris for at least one week (Monday - Sunday) up to one month. You use it as a metro ticket but you don%26#39;t throw it away...you use the same one every tiime you take public transportation. Here%26#39;s a link to more info:





http://idf.sncf.fr/_E91307C3/ME913|PRZFORM|VALID|NONE





Les




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%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;and can anyone explain what a carte orange is?%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;





You may discover ALL---and more---that you need to know about the CARTE ORANGE qiickly and easily by simply using the SEARCH feature of this TA forum, using %26#39;..CARTE ORANGE..%26#39; as your search criteria.




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We were there last friday and there were bikes being rented, but I must say you needed to be a bold rider to ride this time of year.





I saw about 5 or 6 persons doing it.




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I have rented bikes before...it was late fall. What a great way to explore the grounds. And just reading through information about Versailles and bike rental is 6€/hr.




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Last time I visited Versaille (in March) I went to the train station Versailles Chantier, not the station closest to the Palace, and rented a bike for the whole day for about 14 euros. You will need a passport for a deposit. Wonderful way not only to see the gardens but also to ride around the area. Don%26#39;t miss the Jardins du Roi, around the corner from the palace. The train station is about 15 minutes from the palace gates. Nice to have a bike for the whole day and they provide bike locks at no charge! Bon Voyage!

Help with car rental in Beaune

I am having a lot of difficulty finding a rental company that offers AUTOMATIC car for pick-up in Beaune and return in Nice.





The only thing I%26#39;ve found available is Mercedes, I won%26#39;t be needing such a luxury car!





I%26#39;ve tried: avis, hertz, europcar. Suggestions? Or past experiences?



THANKS!




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Try autoeurope.com.





But you may not find an automatic in Beaune--those are more common in large cities and at airports. You might consider Dijon for your car pick-up instead of Beaune.




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Automatics are in general unusual in rental car companies in France. You will only get one on a luxury car. In addition, Beaune is a small town with not many rental offices. This means that you will probably have to pay quite a lot of extra to get one, if at all available. If you don%26#39;t want to drive a long distnace with a manual - why not take the train?





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http://www.bkwine.com




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We%26#39;ve rented from Europecar, either directly or through autoeurope, and never have had a problem. Sorry you had difficulties.

Day trip to Musée Vivant du Cheval

Hi all, my husband and I will be in Paris (first time!) this summer. I would like to take an afternoon trip to Chantilly to see the Musée Vivant du Cheval. Can anyone tell me about how long it takes to get from Paris to Chantilly by train (assuming the train goes there)? Is it reasonable to assume we could go, spend a few hours and come back in about half a day?





Thanks in advance!




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It is a half an hour train ride to Chantilly from the Gare du Nord.



You can absolutely do it in half a day, but there is a wonderful forest to explore and Chateau has an exceptional art collection, should you wish to explore more. To reserve you tix, look here:



www.voyages-sncf.com




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Thank you for the info phread! We are planning on spending 4-5 days in Paris, would it be reasonable to get our tickets for Chantilly when we arrive in Paris? Or should I book them even earlier?

Paris Hotels

hello, I am currently holding two Paris hotels and need someone to advise which of the two is a nicer hotel (larger rooms, ac) and which of the two is a better deal location-wise.



The Pavillion Villers Etoile



or



The Hotel Du Casino



Thanks in advance for the advice!!




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Tough question.





I%26#39;d prefer the location of the Pavillon Villiers Etoile***.



It%26#39;s in the 17th, métro Villiers (serves two different lines).



A good location and neighbourhood, although not VERY central.





As for Hotel du Casino***, it%26#39;s in the 9th (north), Rue de Clichy, métro Liège, which really isn%26#39;t the most charming neighbourhound and that métro stop closes down after 8 PM and on Sat/Sun.





I%26#39;d go with the one near Villiers, if you don%26#39;t have any other choice.





As for reviews, do a search here on TA. Maybe, there are some reviews, although both places don%26#39;t seem to be overly popular.




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We stayed at Comfort Hotel Villiers Etoile, same hotel but before it was picked up by the %26#39;Pavillon%26#39; org...



The hotel is on a quiet side street, with a self-serv launderette and just off the market street of rue de Levis(half of it is pedestrian). We walked to Parc Monceau, very lovely.



There is a Monoprix for sundries and groceries on the market street, and the metro Villiers is about 450 meters walk. Hotel was in decent shape in 1999 (we went in April and again in October), but our rooms would not be classified as %26#39;large%26#39; by any means. The usual 2 feet around the bed on two sides, then a bit more room for the armoire... baths were modern/clean. We didn%26#39;t have any view, as the building is in the middle of a block, and surrounded by other buildings. The room rate has skyrocketed since it became a %26#39;Pavillon%26#39; so not sure if any renovations went along with that (it was fine in 1999). Two other hotels I would also consider in this neighborhood are: Jardin des Villiers, Hotel Monceau Etoile





Hotel du Casino is a very slight bit more central - it%26#39;s on a busier street so could be noisier...





1. the best way to compare room size is to ask the hotel for the dimensions



2. what do the TA reviews say about the Casino, as I don%26#39;t know it...




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This is a difficult choice, I am not sure how you ended up with this very short list as both are not really ideal locations. So, unless you really have super deals , I suggest you do some more research / contacts.





Now, if one has to assess which location (I do not know about the hotels from inside), I would go for the Pavillion Villiers Etoile... while is it is in a quite area, it is relatively close to the Arc De Triomphe and the Champs Elysees starting point, and will provide you access to a very central transportation hub for the metro and RER taking you to most places.





I believe there is nothing really interesting in the Hotel Du Casino location or close by, and you will have to do more metro transfers to reach your major destinations.




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I%26#39;ve asked Zipdo to repost on this thread, so he/she can keep it going in one piece....





Zipdo%26#39;s looking at:



Pavilon Villers Etoile



The Hotel Du Casino



Elysee Etoile



Hotel Glasgow



Abrial Hotel





The reviews are actually fair and good for Villiers Etoile - the middle one seems overly cranky. The comment about the breakfast room is ridiculous - every hotel I%26#39;ve been in had a small restroom off the breakfast room. In Villiers it is not in or that near the breakfast room - it%26#39;s at the other end of the hallway.





Glasgow is just too far %26#39;north%26#39; - don%26#39;t go there.





Don%26#39;t know the other two...




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Hi - Travelnutty has asked me to offer my input for the Pavillon Villier Etoile where my son and I stayed 3 weeks ago.





My original hotel had overbooked and switched several/all of the people in my tour group to this hotel every though I confirmed it the day before we arrived.





It was very clean and the staff was nice but it just made me think %26quot;motel 6%26quot;. If we had been staying for several days, I would probably have switched to somewhere else. Being in the 17th was not too far away from things, with the metro stop so close (2 metro lines), we were no more than 10-15 minutes from anything and the market next to us was very nice as were the little shops and especially Paul%26#39;s Bakery. It does not have air conditioning but does have huge windows that open wide and it%26#39;s not noisy.





I was a little concerned re. being %26quot;out of things%26quot; in the 17th, but it was actually great to get away from the craziness of the more touristy areas. I would be willing to stay in the 17th again.




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My husband %26amp; I are booked to stay at the Pavillon Villiers Etoile Hotel in November. How far is it from the main attractions? 30 minutes by bus? Can we walk from the hotel to the Arc De Triomphe and the Champs Elysees? Any decent, not too expensive nearby restaurants?




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CChotpink:





It is in a rather quiet area... 4 metro stations (direct) from the Arc De Triomphe (Charles De Gaulle / Etoille station ) it is also within possible walking distance from the Arc De Triomphe and the Champs Elysee (would say half an hour along the Boulevard Des Caroucelles to reach there). And the same walking distance to Boulevard Haussmann where the famous department stores are (Galleries LaFayett, Printemps...) and the Opera.





The closest metro station to your hotel would be Villiers Station (10 minuts away)... served by lines 2 and 3... however you best connections to the Tour Eiffel (would be to switch metros at Charles De Gaulle / Etoille station below the Arc De Triomphe) ... or in another Direction to the Opera station, where you will have to switch lines to get to the Louver and Notre Dame.




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Pavillion Villiers Etoile is not a so good hotel, it is well located but you have no subways closed....



Sry but don%26#39;t know Hotel du Casino.



If you want a good area to stay in Paris, it is much better to find an hotel in Saint Germain area or Marais area, those 2 areas are the best in Paris for me, even if it is a little bit more expensive.




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I don%26#39;t see where there is a problem with the Villiers metro, it isn%26#39;t %26#39;closed%26#39;, according to RATP. It is a very short walk from the Pavillon Villiers, maybe 5 minutes/400 meters. The neighborhood is much quieter than the Marais or St Germain, which are very crowded (although perhaps not so much in November). We enjoy leaving the congested tourist areas for our %26#39;homes%26#39; in the less-central locations.




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I think the word intended was %26quot;close%26quot; (nearby) as opposed to closed

Easiski, HI.

HI Easiski.





Thanks for your help again. We have already booked a place at Les Melezes. I am sure it will be good.





Now, what about ski schools for the children... where do I sign up? And which one should they go to? My daughter is 8 and my son 5? Thanks.





Madhuri




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I recommend trying this forum:



forum.magicmaman.com/forum.php…



It%26#39;s a French website full of real French and their parenting/community issues.




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Hi Madhuri,





Please note that the posting rules on this forum state no advertising of any kind. therefore if I give you one solid recommendation for ski school I would be breaking the rules (as I interpret them). Please go to the LDA tourist office website (www.les2alpes.com) and there you will find me. You can then mail me directly and I can give you a reference.





Sorry to be a bit long-winded. there are big differences in the schools here though.




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Hi Easiski.





I am not sure where to look for you on such a large website.





Am to find you on the Contacts website? Is it les2alp@les2alpes.com? Should I use your name Easiski?





Thanks and sorry to keep bothering you.





Madhuri

Traveliing with 90 yr old and 15 yr old need cool hotel for...

Hi Everybody, I LOVE your forum. I can%26#39;t believe how helpful, kind and generous you all have been. I%26#39;ve been browsing like crazy. Travelnutty, and oh Lord forgive me I forgot your name, and you were so helpful, but thank you, thank you so much.



Here is my dillema. I%26#39;m going to be travelling with my elderly Mom, her housekeeper, and my fifteen year old son and want to make the best of things and of course have a great time.



My Mother will be turning ninety on July 31 and we are going to be taking a Viking river cruise for about a week for her. We%26#39;ll be ending up in Paris in August. The Viking cruise people have a supplemental stay arrangement for a measly three days in Paris at Le Meridien Montparnasse. I%26#39;ve picked apart the net looking for info on this hotel and frankly it seems very businessy, boring, cold, and not exactly like the kind of place my son and I, or my Mom, would enjoy so...pass.



I have to go to my Mom%26#39;s today and am under pressure from her to book a hotel, sigh. I might be able to buy some more time and stall a bit as long as we book the cruise today.



Mom is wealthy, but thinks she is poor, she is footing the bill. In her glory years she stayed at the GeorgeV and the Crillon, when she was being more thrifty she stayed at the Lotti. The last time we went we stayed at Hotel de Louvre and I really liked it but because FOOD IS EVERYTHING to my Mom, (and frankly so is easy access to her room and cabs) she didn%26#39;t like it, because she didn%26#39;t like the restaurant.



Poor Mom, obviously at her age, she can%26#39;t walk any neighborhoods or get around much, so room service, or at least a good hotel restaurant is of paramount importance to her. I tried to persuade her to allow us to rent one of these lovely apartments we found because since she will be spending so much time in the room, a lovely bedroom with a living room and a kitchen would be great for her, then she can take her nurse, who is coming with us, and we could save a bit of money and do our own cooking. This might still be an option. Are there any people you like or trust? We%26#39;ve been checking out Parisperfect.com.



Wherever we end up I%26#39;m hoping Mom could go to some shops or maybe a favorite museum or park, during the day, while my son and I take the metro and walk around, and then we could meet up for a dinner at an expensive restaurant, which again is pretty much all she really cares about, comfort and food.



Now, my son and I are very hippie, (we go to Burning Man every year) funky, fun, liberal, artsy, New York downtown type of people. My idea of fun is a good flea market or swap meet, and I like the feel of really living in the city we visit. We want our hotel to have charm and a view of rooftops, buildings, trees, basically life as seen from the window, and we%26#39;d love to be close to tons of fun and funky stores, restaurants, cafes, markets, movie theatres, museums, well, life.



In the past we%26#39;ve always stayed in the 1st, but I%26#39;d like to try something different, I love the Marais (sp?) but I don%26#39;t know if Mom will dig the whole rough hewed beamed celinged vibe of some of the hotels. She likes pretty. Someone mentioned St. Germain de Pres?



So to sum up this overly long post; Mom needs a hotel that won%26#39;t cost more than say 350.00 to 400.00 per night per room, (we%26#39;ll need two, hopefully adjacent) with an elevator because she can%26#39;t walk stairs, someone who can order taxis, a good restaurant open for all three meals, room service if possible, and a big comfortable grandish room, or at least a very pretty girly, or super cool modern room. I don%26#39;t think she%26#39;ll care about the area as long as she has most of these things. Whereas we just want to have fun.



Any ideas? I%26#39;m at such a loss.



Thanks so much.



Hugs from a new pal,


Jacqui



PS: Link to my Live Journal; http://jacqui.livejournal.com




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Just posted reply and do not know where it went...?



1. Relais Saint Germain



2. Pavillon de la Reine



3. Hotel Balzac with fabulous chef Pierre Gagnaire and Champs near by for a 15 years old to explore alone.




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Last September, my family (wife and two kids) and her mom and dad (aged 70 and 75) stayed in a Parisperfect apartment. I will say simply that they are fairly depticted on the web site, which is to say beautiful. As one family owns all of the apartments I think you can rely on their consistent quality. Their locations are exceptionally convenient for daily life as the 7th is very residential and very nice. Also the staff is very helpful and speaks english. We like the units so much we are returning this fall.





For Hotels in your price range check:





Hotel Pont Royal in the 7th www.hotel-pont-royal.com





Hotel Lutetia in the 6th www.lutetia-paris.com

Paris with children for the first time

I will be in Paris for three days for the first time in June with a 5 and 8 year old - any ideas for child friendly places to visit and places to eat would be very welcome!!




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You absolutely MUST take them to the Cite des Sciences et l%26#39;Industrie up at Parc Villette. It is probably the biggest and BEST science museum in the world.





It is perfect for your children and for YOU. Try avoid going on a weekend when Paris children are out of school - you will find it very crowded.




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Here is the website: www.cite-sciences.fr/english/indexFLASH.htm




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There are tons of posts if you do a search, but off the top of my head:



The trampolines at the Tuileries



The playground, fountain with sailboats and marionette shows at the Luxembourg gardens



The gardens at the Rodin museum



And kids love to climb so they generally love the Towers of Notre Dame, L%26#39;Arc de Triomphe and of course, the Eiffel Tower.



A Seine cruise is alos a sure crowd pleaser.



For food, the easiest is to frequent cafes: they have foods kids like, are open at earlier hours and he service does not take as long as in Parisian restaurants. For special meals I regularly recommend le Train Bleu, La Coupole, Altitude 95 and Le Relais de l%26#39;Entrecote.




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At the bridge over the Seine across from the Eiffel tower is a hot-dog stand and carousel. When my daughter was 5, we stopped there for a waffle. She wanted the hot dog. I immediately went into a fit about coming all the way to Paris just to eat a hot dog, but her being 5, you can guess who one. I rolled my eyes and ordered.





The thing was incredible. They heat up a foot-long baguette from the inside and slide in the best tasting hot dog I%26#39;ve every had and then melt gruyere cheese over the thing. Then they stuff it full of the best mustard I%26#39;ve ever had in my life.





She ate part of the $5 hot dog while oggling the Eiffel Tower and nearby buskers and then got her dollar-ride on the carousel while I finished the dog. The whole experience took about 30 minutes and she still talks about it to this day, six years later.

Charming Paris Hotel

Looking for a hotel with some charm in a perfect location--I have a 5 yr old and 8 yr old in tow! Can spend $300-$400 per night. This is our first trip to Paris. All suggestions welcome as I am still quite unsure which arrondisement has the most to offer a parent traveling alone with two kids!




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I suggest you have a look at this hotel site.



They have a pretty good seletion all over the city.



Click %26#39;Charming %26amp; boutique hotels%26#39; and read yourself a little bit through the descriptions.





http://www.hotels-exclusive.com/paris.htm





I suggest, you concentrate on hotels in the 6th, 5th, 7th (Left Bank) and maybe 1st and 8th arr. (Right Bank).





Come back, if you wish more detailled information about exact location, traffic noise, etc. etc.





Narrow down to about three possible hotels. Check availabilities with the hotels directly. Same with the booking procedure.



Lots of hotels now do have own web pages. Just say which ones have gathered your particular interest.





Happy hunting. :o)




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Your budget is 250 -340 Euros a night and that buys a lot. I usually advise (as do many others) that people on their first trip stay in the 1st to 6th arrondisements or possibly the third, but with young children, you don%26#39;t necessarily want to be in crowded inner areas that don%26#39;t have many open spaces where children can run around and have a bit of carefree play.





You could try the area of the 17th around the Parc Monceau (a park frequented by Parisians with children in a well-heeled residential area not far from the Arc de Triomphe) so you could take the children to Parc Monceau to run around a bit. There is a Best Western (Hotel Regent%26#39;s Garden) in a classic building (built by Napoleon III for his physician) that has a lot of charm and many quite big rooms. Some of the %26quot;Regents Rooms%26quot; (280-290 E a night) have two double beds and tables and chairs.





hotel-paris-garden.com/English/TheHotel2.html





I read in a guide book that the hotel also has some adjoining rooms where you could sit and read in your room with the children in their own room only a step away. Check the rates that apply for rooms booked at least 30 days in advance (but note the pay-upfront and no cancellation refund rules) and also ask about deals on adjoining rooms and family rooms. The other thing is that it has its own garden for (not too wild) play. Being a Best Western you would hope it would be child friendly





With the children, you are unlikely to want to go out at night and you can take buses and the metro to the places you want to see during the day - perhaps the zoo in the botannical gardens (near metro Jussieu) or some of the places recommended for children on this site





parisdigest.com/withchildren/museedelapoupee…




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I%26#39;d recommend the Hôtel Madison, which is just opposite the church of St-Germain-des-Prés--excellent location. Just down the street is a good Italian restaurant offering pizza, pastas, and standard French food. A block away is a Haagen-Daz ice cream shop.





From the hotel it%26#39;s half a block to the St-Germain métro, about 3 blocks to the Seine, and two or so blocks to the excellent Paul%26#39;s Boulangerie near the rue de Buci: terrific hot chocolate, good breakfasts. The Luxembourg Gardens, which kids love, is within reasonable walking distance. Room rates would be within your budget.




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firstmmo,





Underhill mentioned Hagen Daz ice cream.



May I respectfully request that you



forget that and head for Berthillon.



I%26#39;m the sorbet type but their ice cream



is equally as good if that%26#39;s your thing.





btw, I live in San Carlos and wouldn%26#39;t



steer you wrong.




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A charming hotel needs a courtyard IMO.



Hotel des Marronniers on rue Jacob is one.



With kids you need to be near a good metro and bus system since they often do not walk as much as adults. Any hotel near Madeleine/Opera/department stores would be good for that.



All buses 20 through 29, 94, 95 and others go through there.



You should also think about a private guide who is used to working with kids. go1to20, LPennin104 and Parisfind (all at aol.com) are some of them.




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Both the 2 recommendations on the Left Bank



are indeed great but it was most interesting



when our 2 grandchildren (5 and 8) were with



us, we opted for The Regina Hotel on the



Right Bank. It couldn%26#39;t have been more perfect! The Eiffel Tower %26quot;blowing kisses%26quot; to



them from their balcony. The Ferris Wheel in



the Tuilleries as well as the %26#39;boardwalk%26#39; and



the restaurants which welcomed them! It was a



perfect spot and the staff treated them as if



they were royalty. Even the bartender allowed them to teach him how to make them



%26quot;Shirley Temples%26quot; which was totally new to him. The walk in front of the Louvre to the



Batobus was perfect. They were delighted that



they could RUN in a city! Wherever you decide to stay you%26#39;ll have a marvelous time...seeing Paris through children%26#39;s eyes is an unforgettable experience! Savor it!




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I%26#39;ve had Berthillon ice cream and much prefer Haagen Daz!





About the Regina--we were very unhappy with that hotel when we stayed for four nights a while back. We had a dumpy little room on the mezzanine floor with furniture that had seen better days, and I don%26#39;t mean antique: just scuffed and battered. The room smelled musty, and the bathroom was quite small. Never again.




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Underhill...my sympathies are with you since



you are the first poster I can recall who



had an unfortunate experience st the Regina.



Ours was just the opposite!




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Here, perhaps, but not on the Fodor or bonjourparis.com sites.

romantic stay in paris

I need some advice please, I am visiting Paris in May for the first time, and I am looking for advice on hotels and what part of the city to stay in , we will be there for three wonderful nights, I want somewhere romantic and charming, close to some excellent (moderately priced) trendy little restaurants and cosy cafes. We both love food, and want to experience beautiful shops and boutiques as well. I would really appreciate any advice that is given, thank you in advance.




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First time in Paris? I would choose an area near the Eiffel Tower and have a room which has a grand view of the tower so you can enjoy the sparkling tower during the evenings. I find the Eiffel quite romantic. Go for long walks along the Seine, that%26#39;s quite romantic. Boat rides on the Seine River at nights is romantic.




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I know what you mean Kerryblue. I%26#39;m going through the same thing trying to plan for our first trip to Paris in May. I%26#39;ve spent the last two weeks looking daily online at different hotels, reading reviews, checking ratings, etc.I%26#39;m driving myself nuts trying to find the perfect place that%26#39;s within our means. So I don%26#39;t have any advice, just wanted to commisurate about the stress of planning the trip. At first I thought it would be so great and easy to find a place because of the internet. Now I find that it makes it even harder to pick a place.I%26#39;m thinking I miss the good old days when people could just pick up the phone, call a travel agent, and have THEM arrange everything!Know what I mean??! Anyways, I just logged on to your post hoping to see some advice for myself! Hope you find what you%26#39;re looking for. I know I%26#39;ll be greatly relieved when I finally do!





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Le Relais Christine gets my vote as one of the most romantic hotels in the city and the neighborhood (St Germain) is this forum%26#39;s fave.



The ET is magnificent, but the neighborhood around there does not have the village-y feel that you seem to be after.




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Firstly, thank you all very much for taking the time to reply to my post, It is nice to know that there are people willing to help others in the search for a perfect and peaceful vacation.



%26quot;Rendezvousinparis%26quot;, your advice is exactly what i am after, going for long walks and taking boat rides along the seine, it seems too good to be true, thank you for your advice.



6Boys4me: hopefully you will get some ideas from the postings that i have received, it seems that finding the perfect short holiday in Paris can be stressful,especially when we know very little about this beautiful city. I%26#39;m sure you can%26#39;t wait to explore it also.





Also Phead, thank you very much for your recommendation. I have searched the St Germain area and this area is exactly what I am after, The hotel is also ideal. Thank you all very much , Kerryblue




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I%26#39;m not leaving for Paris until later this week, and have never been before. But my husband and I feel like we%26#39;ve found (thanks to these forums) the two most perfect hotels in what sounds to be the best district (the latin). Check out:





paris-hotel-stjacques.com/english/rates.html





abbatial-parishotel.com/English/TheHotel1.ht…





To read further what people have said about these hotels you can read my pervious posts, or search for them and read other travelers reviews as well.




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My first four Septembers in Paris I



stayed in the Latin Quarter-5th. Last September



I stayed in the St Germain de Pres-6th.





In terms of restaurants, cafes, beautiful



shops and boutiques the 6th gets my vote.





Good metro service also along Blvd.



St.Germain.




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Dine at %26quot;1728%26quot;. You can%26#39;t get much more romantic than that.




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Please, please people, eraise this awful word %26quot;perfect%26quot; from your vacation plans: a vacation is just life, slightly better hopefully. So don%26#39;t overdo it. And, you know what, the good old days where you could pick up your phone and call your travel agent are not gone, as far as I know...




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Hi Bob,





I was contemplating creating a new thread %26quot;Perfect Paris%26quot;!





Perfection is subjective, and we, as visitors, are constantly seeking out another perfect hotel or restaurant wherever we might be.





What is perfect to one person is not necessarily so for another, but we can point others in directions in the hope that they might have their perfect visit.





At the moment we have found our perfect hotel in Paris, and have several perfect cafes and restaurants, where we have shared a perfect meal, and shared a perfect drink.





Not all these places are top notch, state of the art, michelin recommended.





An Irish bar on Rue de St Andre des Arts watching a France v England Rugby match with some ardent French supporters. Perfect!





Reading the papers over coffee and then lunch at Fouquets on a Saturday. Perfect! (Pot au Feu hopefully)





Being welcolmed at a restaurant, the Bistro Cote Mer as old friends and shown to %26quot;our%26quot; table. Perfect!





Our ideally situated 3 star hotel on the Rue de Seine. Perfect!





Visitors will always seek out perfection, don%26#39;t say that is %26quot;awful%26quot;.





Off to work now. Not so perfect!





Best wishes




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Ian, your three star on rue de Seine is indeed very nice!

First trip to Paris, female by myself, 3 days in April

Hi,


I%26quot;m travelling by myself and will be spedning 3 days in Paris alone. I think I will be booking at Garden Hotel. I%26#39;m not sure how easy it is to get around but could someone provide some guidance on what to do, what to watch for, where not to stay late night etc. I%26#39;d like to come home alive and unharmed :)




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I%26#39;m not an expert (less than 20 posts!), but you may have better response to your post if you firstly search the Paris forum for ideas--first trip, first time, suggested itinerary, etc.--I%26#39;ve not been hanging around in this forum all that long, but yours seems to be a very common question. Also, you%26#39;ll do better if you have some more specific information regarding your interests, likes, dislikes, etc., as this will help people come up with ideas for you.





Hubby and I are looking forward to our first trip to Paris in May, so I%26#39;ve not been there yet, but from what I can tell, your biggest safety concern in Paris will be pickpockets--keep bags, etc close to you, stay aware of your surroundings, keep passport and other valuables as secure as possible on your person. Also, apparently, French men like to flirt (there%26#39;s a recent thread on here about that), and you have to be firm in your discouragement of unwanted advances. Otherwise, everything I%26#39;ve read thus far indicates that Paris is an exceptionally safe city, even for a woman or women travling alone.




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Most places in Paris will allow you to go home safe and unharmed. Areas that look so-so during the day are better avoided at night but they are not in central Paris.



I do not know where Garden hotel is plus I have not heard of it.



If you give more info you can then be better assisted.




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Hi,





Could it be the Timhotel Jardin Des Plantes



5 Rue Linne, in the 5th.





We have had friends stay there.





There are reviews on TA plus other hotels containing %26quot;jardin%26quot;





Best wishes




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PrincessS, I can tell you that I traveled to Paris alone last fall and had a great time. Being alone forced me to meet people (which I did). And it allowed me to do whatever I wanted -- including staying out all night, sleeping late, wandering through neighorhoods, hanging out at cafes (I brought a notebook to write in so I didn%26#39;t feel so awkward being alone).





You can certainly do all the sites by yourself -- the Louvre, la Tour Eiffel, St-Chapelle, Notre-Dame, etc. And I would definitely recommend a walk through the Marais neighborhood (lots of shops and restaurants). As far as going out at night, the Latin Quarter is safe and fun, albeit touristy and expensive. If you%26#39;re staying in that area, you should be very safe as long as you stick to the main streets at night.





Have a great time!

hunting inexpensive warm clothes for women and 12 year olds

we are taking our 12 year twins to paris next week.they have done a lot of Italy,Spain and UK.they are not hugely excited about sight seeing.they would love to shop.we are coming from a warm tropical city and with out appropriate warm clothes.will land and go shopping for warm clothes right away.this is making me not only nervous but also confused.i am told its dredfully cold and this is a wrong time to find warm clothes as the stores are selling next seasons.i need ideas,advise and tips where to go in paris for warm stuff and what kind of activities can we do with the 12 year olds.all tips are wellcomed.




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Cold Paris, I am sure the major department stores like Galleries Lafayette and Printemps (in the 9th district) will still have warm clothes to purchase, even though the sales are over but I would at least buy the children a decent wind proof jacket and a sweater before arrival.




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There really is not a lot out there that is appropriate for today%26#39;s weather, even at the big dept. stores. I was a the Clef des Marques on the boul Raspail yesterday and they sepcialize in out of season collections, so they still have plenty in the way of winter gear.




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Clef des Marques on the boul Raspail-where is this and hoe do i get there from e3 where i will be staying.i will have to take a taxi as we 3 will be with out jackets.goosh this is making me so nervous..




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La Clef des Marques 124 bd Raspail 75006 01 45 49 31 00



Good luck. It is freezing here, literally.




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hi is there any other tip out there that a local expert can give me on how do we organize some quick and good looking winter wear after arriving in Paris on this wednesday?we will be staying at rue Rambuteau, 75003 Paris.




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Hey cold -





I agree with the poster who suggested that you buy at least a sweater before you arrive in Paris - I%26#39;m a skier - and I know that if you can%26#39;t find warm woolen sweaters anywhere else, you should still be able to find them in a ski shop -- do get wool -- cotton just won%26#39;t keep you warm - besides, a sweater makes a great souvenir, every time you wear it, you%26#39;re reminded of good times and adventures.





The other thing you might still be able to get in a ski shop is silk underwear - since I nearly froze to death during a rainy September week in Grenada, I carry a set (top and bottoms) with me wherever I go - they weigh nothing and will fit into my bag no matter how tightly it%26#39;s packed -- and when the temperature drops they%26#39;re worth their weight in diamonds --





Also -- don%26#39;t be so nervous - the weather might warm up by the time you get to Paris - probably not enough to do without warm sweaters, but maybe enough to take the edge off things -- 5 or 6 degrees can make a big difference --




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I really don%26#39;t know what to tell you. It was freezing this morning and coats will be mandatory, however, ever at the Clef des Marques they are not cheap and this late in the season I saw predominantly ski wear. Not exactly Paris chic, but warm. Is there really no one that you could borrow from?




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Don%26#39;t know where you live, but one suggestion is to go to the local GoodWill. Here in Florida, lots of people get rid of their warm clothes so it%26#39;s a good place to look. Won%26#39;t be chic but should be warm and not expensive. If you really don%26#39;t like them, just leave them before you go home.




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You%26#39;re presumably spending quite a bit of money for a wonderful vacation for you and your family -- why don%26#39;t you splurge a little in the name of comfort and just buy a jacket for the kids before you go? I%26#39;m not sure why you want to wait till you arrive, but maybe there%26#39;s a reason.


If you%26#39;re absolutely determined to buy a jacket after you arrive, if your idea of inexpensive is REALLY cheap, you may be out of luck... but on our trip in July we hit a day or two of cold weather and we bought some cute little %26quot;tourist%26quot; jackets for the kids. They were probably overpriced, but the kids liked them, we didn%26#39;t wander all day like zombies looking for a cheap coat and we%26#39;re still enjoying them now.


I really wouldn%26#39;t worry at all.


As far as 12 year olds and tips. We took our 14 and 13 year olds and they had a wonderful time. They loved everything about Paris (except for some of the food), but they really loved the Eiffel Tower the most I think. They did enjoy it all, though, including the Louvre, Notre Dame, (my son loved the stained glass in St. Chapelle too). I%26#39;m sure your kids will have a fantastic trip!




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When you arrive rue Rambuteau, go to the big underground shopping mall at Les Halles. It is ugly and tacky, but you%26#39;ll find everything there. The sales are officially over, but they are still selling winter clothes, don%26#39;t worry. At Les Halles, there are plenty of independent clothes shops, and you can go to H%26amp;M, it%26#39;s huge, dirt cheap and trendy, they have clothes for all seasons. And as a previous poster said, if the worst comes to the worst, go to a sports shop, such as Go Sport (there is one in Les Halles) or Décathlon: the ski season goes on for another month and a half, so they%26#39;ll have plenty of fleece, woolen sweater, hats and stuff.

Versaille/Paris Luggage/Travel issue

I am thinking of driving to Versaille on a Sunday from Loire region. Drop off the rental car, check out the scene and then train it back to Paris. Are there car rental offices there, open on sunday?( dont%26#39; trust websites, as I have seen a booking where i have chosen hours which it says are open then the reservation says not available at that time). Also, what to do with my luggage as I tour Versaille? I will have large suitcases. Is it common in most cities for their to be lockers that accomodate large items?



Anyeone with knowledge, I would appreciate your input.




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Versailles ought to have car rental offices open on Sunday. It%26#39;s a big business center (ie GE in Buc). How about phoning to verify?



Well-traffic%26#39;d French trainstations like Versailles%26#39; had good supplies of good sized lockers at least as late as the fall of 2000. I haven%26#39;t checked since then and whether post 9-11 security enhancements have changed that situation at all.




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You can book a car through RailEurope, where you can see which agencies are open which days, etc. I always go through Avis while in France.





Les




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%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;, what to do with my luggage as I tour Versaille? I will have large suitcases. Is it common in most cities for their to be lockers that accomodate large items?%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;





To the best of my knowledge that are NO Left Luggage facilities at or around Chateau de Versailles...nor at any of the SNCF train stations serving Versailles (Chantiers, Rive Droit, Rive Gauche).





But to double check, you might try contacting the Office de Tourisme de Versailles--



www.versailles-tourisme.com/index_a.html




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Why don%26#39;t you drive back to Paris and keep luggage in car? Versailles as most public places these days, does not have luggage facilities for security reasons.




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%26gt;%26gt;%26gt; Why don%26#39;t you drive back to Paris and keep luggage in car?





Or at least keep the car until your ready to get on the RER so you can keep your luggage in it.

How do i book a ticket from avignon to marseilles?

I keep getting the connections page, with the schedules etc, but there is no link to find out the fare or book. I keep getting eurail passes, etc, whereas i only need to buy one ticket that is from avignon to marseilles st. charles.



how can i do that, can someone help me with links?? for an online booking??




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It seems to be between 16.90€ to 23€ (Ter or TGV)



If you use http://www.voyages-sncf.com/ use the %26quot;train%26quot; section which is on the 1st line between %26quot;ski%26quot; and %26quot;vol%26quot; and you%26#39;ll see the rates as well :-)



happy travels!




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Hi,





There should be no problem using the link:





raileurope.com/us/…index.htm





Best wishes




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Why not simply use the main SNCF--French National Railways web site for direct access to the system---





www.voyages-sncf.com/dynamic/_SvHomePage…




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Hi KDKSAIL,





Thank you for that link.





The last time we used the SNCF site (a few years ago now) we could not get the tickets delivered, so we used Eurorail instead.





Best wishes




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%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;The last time we used the SNCF site (a few years ago now) we could not get the tickets delivered, so we used Eurorail instead%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;





With almost all SNCF fare categories (EXCEPT FULL FARE) you can now print-out %26#39;paper tickets%26#39; on your home computer. BUT...you can just as easily collect your %26#39;paper tickets%26#39; at ***ANY*** SNCF train station in France--or AVIGNON--ANY TIME prior to train departure, quite quickly and easily by simply presenting ***BOTH*** your SNCF Reservation Confirmation Number ***AND*** the ***SAME*** credit card you used to complete the on-line ticket purchase. The ticket collection process really is quite as simple and straightforward as it sounds.




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If you plan to use a non-TGV train there is simply no reason to have the ticket %26quot;delivered%26quot; anywhere. You walk up to the station right before you go and buy the ticket. It won%26#39;t be any different than the one you will have get from the Eurail for a hefty extra fee.




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Hi KDKSAIL,





Have just looked at the site and an imaginery trip to Tours on Saturday! Worked a treat.



Have bookmarked it for further visits.





Thank you




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thanks everyone... am going to take yr advice. and looking forward to visiting yr amazing country!!



my first visit!! we r going to Nice, avignon, paris, and disney [ my 5 yr old insists!!]

Weather in Paris & Nice end of March thru 1st week of April

Anyone? Please advise me what temp we can expect around end of March thru 1st week of April in Paris AND Nice... Thanks!




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It will probably be a bit cool, especially in the evenings. This information is from March 28 through April 7 based on averages since 1997:





Average High Temperature is 59 F



historical range 46 F to 75 F



Average Low Temperature is 44 F



historical range 30 F to 53 F



There is a 0% chance of a Hot Day (temperature over 90°F) (0 days out of 87 in historical record).



Most consecutive days found in historic record: 0



There is a 41% chance of a Warm Day (temperature over 60°F) (36 days out of 87 in historical record).



Most consecutive days found in historic record: 8



There is a 2% chance of a Freezing Day (temperature below 32°F) (2 days out of 87 in historical record).



Most consecutive days found in historic record: 1





Hope this helps.





Vicki Floyd

Best area for tourists?

Our family will be here at the begining of april.2 adults 2 teens.We are looking for something close to the sights but also some nightlife also.Latin quarter has been mentioned.We are coming to Paris on the eurostar.Where would you suggest we stay?4 NIGHTS so we need to keep the cost down.Probably going for 2 rooms to have more space.Quad rooms seem to small.Only one bath.Hotel wilson seemed nice but seemed to far away from things.Help me everyone.Thanks




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I think you have gotten good advice



in terms of staying in the 5th.





Put Hotels 5th Arrondisement in



the search box to your upper left



and on the Internet (add Paris).





Come back with a few names and



bounce them off us.

Driver/guide in Nice -please advice.

Ww will travel to Nice in March.


We are looking for a person, who could drive us around and show French Riviera.


Maybe some walking tours, etc.


I checked some agencies - most of them way too expensive.


Maybe somebody was in French Riviea and was happy with a guide...


Email or phone number will really help!


Please advice.




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Have you checked with the Nice tourist office?





http://www.nicetourism.com/GB/som.html





I do think that having a private guide with a car is not going to be inexpensive. Walking tours are much less costly.




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I suggest you get a good guidebook and do your own tours. Use guides for sites like Villa Ephrussi-Rotschild, Villa kerylos or museums in Nice. Otherwise here is a good example of a walking tour of my own ,which I will repeat just this Friday as I am leavingtomorrow for Nice.





There are musts like walking on the Promenade des Anglais , both looking at the sea, the beach and the hotels.



The Old Town and the Cours Saléya: Start from Place Masséna and walk towards the Promenade on Rue de l’Opéra. Make a left on Rue St-Francois-de-Paule, check the boutiques but don’t buy there (touristy prices way too high). Walk straight ahead to the Marché aux Fleurs (Cours Saléya). There is a market every day except Mondays. Walk to the end of the market and you get to the Chapelle du St-Suaire. Make a left on J” Gilly street . It ends on Rue de la Préfecture. Make a left there and walk until you reach Rue Ste-Réparate. Make a right and you will see the Cathedral Ste-Réparate and get on Place Rossetti. Very typical (look at the warmth of colours if you are there 1hr or 2 before sunset). A left on Rue Rossetti until you reach Rue Droite. Make a left on Rue Droite and walk to its end. Stop by Palais Lascaris (free visit) and some nice artist shops (check Christian Dury’s gallerie =%26gt; he puts typical Nice things in Plexiglas frames). Rue Droite falls into Rue St-François the in Rue Pairolière. Both typical Old Nice streets with locals shops, food store, fish and meat stores, etc. Open your eyesand your ears and take a deep breath. Now you see the real thing. You get to the Place Garibaldi. Time for lunch. Help yourself, there are plenty nice spots at cheap prices.



From Place Garibaldi keep your right and stay on Rue Catherine Ségurane from where you will get a road that brings you up the Castle Hill (Colline du Chateau). Walk up to its top and have a look at the whole area (the Port, the beaches, the town). Stop by the Cemetery on your way down and wak to the Port. Look at the small fishermen boats on Quai des Deux Emmanuel. And walk back to town circling the Castle Hill by walking on the sea side to reach back Promenade des Anglais



That one should take not far from a day long, especially if you stop often at boutiques or for an ice cream cone…




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We%26#39;ll be there in March too and want to go to Grasse, but without a car. Any ideas on how to get around? ALso, what is the area to avoid during construction in Nice?




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Guidebooks provide a flying start. I much prefer the ones produced locally. Some of these include tour- and circuit explanations, both more local ones, where you preferably walk along and more regional ones, by car or bus. If, as you write, you absolutely want to be driven around, I would imagine to talk to a taxi driver asking for a day or halfday deal. This stated, the public means of communication are excellent and quite affordable.

Astor Paris St. Honore

Can anyone tell me anything about this hotel? My friend has stayed in this area before and asked her travel agent for another hotel in the neighborhood. Its seems ok, but I was curious, it is listed as the 8th Arr but everyone mentions the 6th. My friend wants to walk out her front door to everything.





I was a little concerned because this hotel was never mentioned in any tour books and I couldn%26#39;t find it on the TA hotel list (but its very long)




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The hotel is on TA, and gets good reviews:



tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187147-d229443…





No need to go through the entire list of hotels - just use the %26quot;search%26quot; function!




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The hotel is in the 8th arrondissement, close to Rue du Faubourg St Honore and the Elysee Palace. A posh, quiet hotel.

Day trip from Paris

Hi all, I%26#39;m visiting Paris later this month and am trying to figure out if I should leave the city for a day. Know of any worthwhile excursions? I%26#39;ll be reliant on a tour company or public transportation. I%26#39;ve been to Versailles, so not there. Any other suggestions? Thank you!




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Check out the daily excursions offered



by ParisVision.




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Why not Disneyland Paris? ;-) Just kidding!





I would suggest Chantilly, north of Paris. About 45 minutes by train from Gare du Nord. A great castle with a superb park, surrounded by forests where Parisians love to have picnic (well, when the wheather is a bit warmer). You can visit the fine painting collection in the castle and I recommend the %26quot;Horse Living Museum%26quot; (Musee Vivant du Cheval) located in the beautifully restored castle%26#39;s stables.

Tues, March 2nd . . . Rain/Snow?

So, what is the weather like when the forcast says rain/snow? Is it a little bit rainy and snowy or a lot? We will be there this Saturday until the following Tuesday (March 14th). Will there be several inches of snow or does it barely stick and then melt away?





Merci!




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AandJ



Don%26#39;t worry. In central Paris it is cold with a bit of rain mixed with snow. It does not stick at all though sidewalks may be a bit slippery early morning especially outside of town.



Enjoy your stay!




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There was just enough snow in the parks for the kids to think they were having a snowball fight, and then it was gone. Ironically, the last few days have been a mix of rain, snow and some of the bluest skies we have enjoyed in months. It is much better than a mild, but grey rainy day.

Sending food back in restaurants?

Just read the post about the diner disappointed in a meal at Le Tastevin and s/he mentioned that the beef was rubbery probably because it had been prepared too far in advance. I%26#39;ve only sent my food back in a restaurant once, when I ordered a steak medium at an expensive steak house and I got one very well done. The restaurant was very gracious about it and even comped our cocktails without our asking. However, would the same be true in a French restaurant? Are diners catered to in this way? Or if you get something that isn%26#39;t just to your taste, but wrong, are you expected to just eat it? I understand that French thoughts on customer service are different and was curious.




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Well, you have the most perfect right to do so BUT crazy people think that the chef will most likely do something silly with your food before getting it back to you... I did it a couple of times too but chefs can be fussy if you criticize their cooking so you don%26#39;t know wether the sauce will spiced up with some bugs or if spit has been used to rearrange you steak!



I guess that is an urban legend but you have no chance to verify this... But as I said it doesn%26#39;t happen very often. One thing though I have noticed in Paris, I love my steaks rare but have to order them saignant (medium?) to get them rare otherwise it is not warm enough. that is actually the subtlety of a rare steak, rare but hot enough all the way through. Anyway just my trick the get the steaks without sending them back!




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The resto biz in the states generally looks at %26quot;rare%26quot; as being cool in the center, med rare as warm, and medium as hot. My understanding of the French equivalents would be rare = blue, med rare = saignant (bloody) and medium = moyen or medium. While a streetside cafe may be more apt to give you the evil eye if you complain about your steak frites, I%26#39;ve never been in an actual restaurant that hasn%26#39;t gone out of its way to make things %26quot;right%26quot;, and have regularly dined with Parisians who%26#39;ve made their feelings known when they%26#39;ve been unhappy, so I don%26#39;t think it%26#39;s all that different.




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ALDC, the concept of %26quot;the customer is always right%26quot; absolutely does not apply in Paris. The customer is expected to simply put up with things the way they are. In a restaurant, the tacit understanding is that the dish is perfectly correct or else the chef would never have let it leave the kitchen. Any criticism of the dish could be perceived as a direct criticism of the chef%26#39;s natural abilities. That%26#39;s also the reason it is generally not acceptable to order a dish %26quot;steamed instead of fried, with the sauce on the side, and could I also substitute zucchini for the green beans%26quot;. Some restaurants that see a larger number of tourists are might be more willing to accomodate slight changes, as would restaurants that cater to the neighborhood regulars (of course, you must be a neighborhood regular to get away with this behavior).





That said, I have twice sent back a poorly prepared dish in Paris. In one instance what I eventually ate was fine, but in the other, the piece of meat had been perfectly incinerated. I%26#39;ve had only one truly awful meal in all the many times I%26#39;ve been to Paris(sorry, Pixfield, but it was Chez Michel). I didn%26#39;t bother to even attempt to send it back since none of the food at the tables around me looked very good, either!





If you%26#39;re really confident and feel ready to take on the world you can try what I did last November when my dad came with us to Paris (some of you may remember %26quot;The Adventures of Dad %26amp; Charlie%26quot;). We went to eat at one of our regular places. I ran ahead of our group to talk to the restaurant%26#39;s owner, explaining that we wanted to eat there, but that my elderly father really possessed no understanding of good food. Even though it would result in an utterly incorrect presentation and a disastrous flavor, would the chef be so kind as to ignore the rules of good cuisine and serve the steak without the wild mushrooms and with the wine sauce on the side. Of course, all this flattery worked beautifully, and we had a fine dinner that Dad really enjoyed. That was where he even tried caviar and goat cheese for the first time!




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Mon ami Truffaut, you must have read Madame la comtesse de Talleyrand-Périgord and memorize her position about flattery :



Le seul capital qui ne coûte rien et qui rapporte beaucoup, c%26#39;est la flatterie.




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Kasthor...appreciate the point about liking your steak rare but ordering it medium--I will remember that! I, too, prefer meat on the rare side (more flavor and not dried out), but I don%26#39;t want a cold piece of raw meat on my plate, either!




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Hi





Not Paris but an illustration of the thread. We were with friends in a restaurant in Azay de Rideau, summer 2003, when one of the party ordered his steak %26quot;bien cuit%26quot;. This was actually refused as the chef would be upset and our friend was advised to go with the Boeuf Bourguignon which the Chef could guarantee had been well done.





Rightly or wrongly, this is what he decided on and enjoyed the meal hugely!





Best wishes




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I find the different degrees of meat “grilling” vary all too widely in the US and vary to a lesser degree in France but with a trend to cook meat a little longer than was once done. (Perhaps influenced by tourists preferring it so.) I should like to offer the following equivalents:





Bleu – not really served in the US



Saignant – rare



A point – medium rare



Medium – medium



(does not exist) – well done





Of course, these definitions are quite subjective and interpreted with my own personal biases. Some restaurants do not necessarily distinguish between medium and a point, preferring not to even bother serving meat cooked more than medium rare. I believe the French are correct on this point (as with all things edible) as after many years a constant visitor (tourist) I too now prefer meat cook to a lesser degree than I once did. After all, don’t the French believe that steak cooked more than medium is perhaps more suitable for footwear than for consumption. My wife, who prefers steak above all other nourishment forms, has altered her tastes from medium to rare, thanks in large part to many restaurants refusing to serve her meat any other way, it was consume or stave. She has repeatedly chosen the former and ultimately adjusted her taste sensibilities accordingly.





Which leads me to the following conclusion: don’t even think about sending a food item back to its French creator. And for those of you who may not know, don’t ask for a doggy bag either.




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I have sent back a few steaks, not because they were bad, but because i eat it very very very cooked and wanted an extra cooking as the meat was not as cooked as i wanted it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, the waiters never said anything, and from the restaurant you can%26#39;t hear the chef maybe upset so don%26#39;t worry...I have been living in PAris for eight years now...I wouldn%26#39;t try it though in a gastronomic restaurant but in a casual place and brasserie i would




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Thanks for all the advice and comments. Hopefully I%26#39;ll never have to worry about it :)




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%26lt;(does not exist) – well done%26gt;



bien cuit! :-)

Paris to Germany...how to get there...which city to...

Hi guys, I%26#39;m spending my honeymoon in London and Paris and am thinking about traveling over to Germany. I thought about going by train but it looks like that might take awhile. Which would be the best way to travel and which site should I book rail tickets thru? TIA




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There is an overnight train from Paris to Munich with sleeper cars. It leaves about 10:45 PM and arrives in Munich just before 9 AM. This is a pleasant way to travel and you will %26quot;save time%26quot; by traveling while you sleep, but since it is your honeymoon, be aware that the cars have bunk beds! You can get the most complete schedules at:



www.reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en Many U.S. travelers buy tickets ahead through raileurope, but this can cost more unless you are also buying a train pass. Whether or not you need a pass depends how much train traveling you plan to do. Happy honeymoon.




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www.raileurope.co.uk/eurostar/index.asp



I don%26#39;t know where in Germany you want to go, but from Paris to Munich is about 65 GBP.





You can also fly from Paris to Dortmund or Berlin via EasyJet.




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There is also a Thalys connection (express train) from Paris to Aachen and Cologne - this takes about 3 hrs 50 min, and costs €64 (return ticket, 2nd class). www.thalys.fr




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Thanks for the suggestions!!!





I checked out easyjet.com, great site, couldn%26#39;t believe how cheap the flights were from Paris to Berlin. I might fly since it was so cheap.





I also checked out the rail site, it said that prices weren%26#39;t available. Do you know how far in advance you can buy tickets thru the site?





Thanks again guys!!!




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Don%26#39;t forget the various taxes when flying - these tend to add up. Also, the cheaper airlines typically use airports that are far away from the centre. And they advertise rates that are only available for a few seats on each flight, months in advance!




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Hi everyone,





I have a similar question... but more about bookings.





I want to catch a night train on May 21 from Paris to Munich... and I%26#39;m not sure of the most cost effective way to do it.





I%26#39;m thinking that a seat would do me (I%26#39;m on a bit of a budget!), but I wasn%26#39;t sure whether to book it through one of the many websites or on the day.





Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!





Thanks so much!





Cheers, Kiz




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Go to http://www.whichbudget.com, and you%26#39;ll realise that plenty of low cost airlines fly between Paris and various German cities: easyJet for Dortmund and Berlin, German Wings for Cologne, and Air Berlin for plenty of cities including Munich and Frankfurt. IMHO a night train is long, not as romantic as it sounds, and expensive. The only exception would be the Thalys to Cologne, but that%26#39;s a day train.




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Fantastic!! Thanks Bob!!



I can%26#39;t believe how cheap flights are in Europe!! For me to fly return to Sydney (I live 7 hours away) is $360 AUD -- and that%26#39;s the discount fare!!!



I thought the train was a good idea in that I could kill two birds with the one stone... a night%26#39;s accomodation and getting myself to Munich.



But for an extra few dollars... it sounds like I might be best to get to Munich in no time and all and have a good nights sleep in a proper bed!



Thanks so much for the suggestion!!




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There are cheap offers for the night trains starting from as little as 19 EUR one way - and contrary to airlines, there are no additional costs. That%26#39;s what you pay city center to city center. Travel in such a way isn%26#39;t very comfortable indeed, but it isn%26#39;t that bad either and if on budget, worth consideration.





www.nachtzugreise.de




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As opposed to what one may think arriving after a night in a train isn%26#39;t like you have spent a night in bed. You will be exhausted!



In my opinion and on Bob%26#39;s behalf I think that if you have time enough ahead to book flights you get them cheaper and you really save time, a night more in Munich is much more exciting than a night on the train.



As for cities to visit in Germany, I think the hottest spot is Berlin. Munich is culturally very interesting and Hamburg is a harbour city full of energy. These would be my favourite.

A little Jazz . . . .Le Caveau de la Huchette March 2-9...

Anyone interested in meeting up?




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Actally . . . I don%26#39;t get there unitl the 4th. =) Maybe Monday or Tuesday night?




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Depends...



do you like the nightlife...do you like to boogie? Or are you earlybirds? (I%26#39;m fairly fogie-ish myself, and like to catch the train, so midnight is my curfew). By the way, what part of California are you from?




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I am so sorry I won%26#39;t be there! I planned a get-together at Le Caveau on March 26 for anyone available at that time. It is my favorite place to go! Have you gone before?? Have a fantastic time!





I am here to encourage anyone in town at that time to go and join the fun- you won%26#39;t regret it!!




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%26lt;%26lt;do you like the nightlife...do you like to boogie? Or are you earlybirds? (I%26#39;m fairly fogie-ish myself, and like to catch the train, so midnight is my curfew). By the way, what part of California are you from?%26gt;%26gt;





I used to dance when I was younger . . . but I%26#39;m kinda a fogie myself. Plus hubby looks silly when he dances. I REALLY enjoy jazz though . . . I worked in a Jazz club in San Francisco for a couples years on the weekends. I would love it if you could join us . . . at home we usually go to bed early and wake up early cause of work. What time are they open, or do people usually go?





We live about 40 minutes drive from San Francisco. =) Bay Area, CA.




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AandJ, the band usually starts about 1015pm (2215). They have live music nightly and cover is about 11E on weekdays, 13E on weekends.





Here is their website:





http://www.caveaudelahuchette.fr/




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We would love to go Monday night would be best for us. We made reservations at a restaurant in the 6th that was suggested by they have jazz in the evening I cant remember the name phread but are open to something new.




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The restaurant is l%26#39;arbuci..




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I believe, L%26#39;Arbuci has its jazz concerts listed on its web page:



http://www.arbuci.com/